Dreams or Astral Projections

[Sernen]

Hey guys
Probably don't remember me but that's okay. Haven't been on in awhile. 

But anyway the subject.
I been thinking about this (Hopefully no one else has said anything about this already)
But I was thinking maybe we aren't really having dreams but we are actually astral projecting ourselfs into random places unconsciously
and what we are remembering sometimes are key elements that our astral bodies want us to remember (or at least itself to remember)
and if your not remembering any dreams it is only because there wasnt anything worthy of remembering.

Or our astral bodies are going into a plain that you could create things in. That would be way some things are just to random to just find somewhere.
Because you would have actually been creating it.

Hopefully you guys understand what I might be saying here. I mean it sounds kinda smart in my head. 

[Tolkus]

I understand what you are saying and I do believe it. I think we create our own "world" in the astral. Would like to hear more from you about it.

[Sernen]

Well it is abit how I said.
But basically we are never dreaming "In our brain" but we are actually always going out of body.

Not really creating a whole new world or anything but going to this plain where anything is possible.
Where everyones imagination comes true but we can only see the imagination and reality we make ourselves there.
You are just creating your imagination if your own little section of this dream plain.

The reason you don't end up there when you are out of body though is because when "dreaming" you end up automatically going to that dream plain
but when just going right out of body you only end up like at your body and going where you know you can go having no idea where this dream plain really is in the first place.
So out of body you would just end up going around what makes sense to you and you would understand you could go too yourself. Like just going around the universe or to other plains you might understand abit about.

Then when you wake up in the dream you ARE already in the dream plain so you can start doing imagination things and just everything is coming true for you and you get to control everything (Or you might mess things up and everything goes wrong and out of control).

Hopefully I am not saying what I already said and you could understand better. 

[danyil]

i had a very similiar thought. we astral project alot during the delta state(sleep), the problem is that within the delta state our consciousness shuts down and we are unaware, therefore we dont remember. but during sleep we pass in and out of the theta state and the delta state. the theta state is the state in wich we dream, it is the state where your body is totally asleep but your mind is active. i believe, after an experience in lucid dreaming, that our dreams are created by our subconscious based on whats happening around you and how to solve situations, i believe that we dream about a few things that are too complex to understand when you are fully awake and aware, so it is hidden within your consciousness. a few days ago i fell into deep meditation, and created by accident, this big realm of me(what i called it) it was all in my mind, but it this realm consisted of everything happening, everything importent to me, etc. in my deep imagination i saw a person who was bullying me at school, to my surprise i didnt retalliate at all, instead of percieving him as something bad, love filled me for this person, and i came to the realisation of why he acts like he does, i also came to the realisation of many other things...the next school day, i went up to him, and told him what i had realised, saying"(blank name), youre not a sissy, and you dont need to be tough to be recognised, and you may bully me again, but note that i forgive you." immediately he started crying and walked away. i believe that our dreamsare very powerful, sometimes they may be astral travel without you knowing, other times they are the key to subconscious, and all understanding.