Demons and Monsters

[HJuniper]

This pictures horrifys me!

A woman submitted this 20 year old photo to Ghosty Study.  She said that her father had taken it, showed it to her twice and would never talk about it.  It is now in her possession since her father's passing.  She also says that her father was involved heavily in "crazy supernatural experiments".



Other evidence of demons/monsters is documented in the Smurl infestation.

http://www.warrens.net/smurl.htm
Thoughts?

[khat13]

that is a demon that newbies conjure up.  He is more of a trouble maker than anything.  If I have to use one I use a hard core one called Astaroth.  He at least has some class and is willing to keep his word in our dealings.  As for the little guy in the picture his job is mostly poltergeistic ie:pinching,moving stuff, hurting and scaring.  Nothing that crossing your fingers and repeating "get thee behind me satan spawn" would not control.  Interesting that her grandfather(?) got a photo of it in front of the mirror.  If you want to see something that was kept pretty much true to fact get the old '80's  movie "Ghoulies"  the ceremonies and demons they used in the movies were pretty much true to form.

[HJuniper]

Oh, I loved Ghoulies! 

[J.Crew]

I'm curious, why would anyone want to summon a demon?  It seems to be a fad nowadays.  I found this "Haunted Djinn box" on Ebay. 

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=006&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=160101479689&rd=1&rd=1

There are all kinds of postings selling rings and re-charge boxes, promises of luck and fortune and the power to have people become attracted to you. If all these things were possible why would people sell it away?  I don't discount all paranormal, but I think it's good to be a healthy skeptic.  There is always a danger of wanting to believe so badly that you lose objectivity. 
Even in a situation where it's obvious something unexplainable is happening people tend to see what they want to believe or sometimes what they fear.  Take a haunting for example, strange things happening in a house lights turning on and off, objects moving around and in places they weren't left, and the phenomena following them when they move. This could also describe someone with telekinetic abilities.  Someone who may have been adopted and never knew about their gifts. Maybe a person who was involved in a traumatic accident or near death experience that triggered psychic abilities late in life.  This person could be the cause of the strange happenings in their house and and not even know.

I admit I don't know much about summoning spirits or demons.  I don't intend treat the subject with disrespect.  I would just like to learn more. 
I read the post by Khat13, maybe you could shed some light on the subject for me.
Something that will always stand out in my mind is a story my grandfather told me that took place while he was serving in the 2nd World War.
He was in the Royal Air Force, a British citizen at the time.  I'm not sure of exactly when but it must have been after 1941 (Pearl Harbor)  because the Americans had joined the war.  My grandfather had told me that a friend of his asked him to go to a seance.  This friends mother had passed away and he wanted to try to contact her, but he didn't want to go alone.  They both managed to get a weekend pass and went to the village where this guy's mother had lived.  To make a long story short My grandfather told me that he thought the whole thing was amusing and told his friend that he was wasting his money.  After arriving at the place where the seance was to be held my grandfather walked around the building while they were setting up.  He was looking for wires and other signs that this was a sham.  He found none.
He told me that he saw things that night that he could not explain, and that scared him.  Someone approached him while leaving and said that he would not be welcome if he came back, because he did not believe, and he was giving off too much negative energy.
My grandfather was an airplane mechanic, pulling apart and putting back together the Rolls Royce engines they used in the planes, he figured that if he couldn't spot any trickery that it must have been real.
It was his warning that I remember the most, he told me to never get involved with things like that.  He mentioned something about Pandora's box and at the time I didn't understand the reference.
I think in essence,  what he was trying to say was that a little bit of knowledge can be a dangerous thing.
It's Ironic but warnings like that are sometimes the very thing that opens the door to fascination.

JCrew

 

[HJuniper]

I enjoy reading the listed haunted item blurbs on ebay strictly for the bad grammar and spelling!   They're all hoaxes, except for possibly the Dibbuk box.  I made a topic on that awhile back.

Anyhow, I see what you are saying about the telekinetic aspect and that people could inadvertantly be "haunting" themselves.  Strange, I re-watched Carrie a couple of nights ago--- lots of doors slamming out of the blue and objects moving around in that picture.
Did you also know that you don't have to be dead to have a ghost of yourself?  It's kind of like an imprint.  So, I think in that manner, a person can haunt themselves as well.  Perhaps a troubled inner child?  I don't know too much else about that.  It was something I had read about before.  That's why I am always curious if Doug could pick up my imprints considering I used to play in his mom's house over two decades ago!

With the whole Pandora's box thing, I will open pretty much any box unless it looks like the one in the Hellraiser movies!  I am horribly curious about everything and anything.  While everyone else is out on the town, I sit at the computer researching topics or reading books.  Maybe not the healthiest social lifestyle, but it's what I enjoy.

Khat has been a hoodoo woman for 30 years.  I don't know much about hoodoo other than the fact that it's very nature-based.  I think demons are summoned for various reasons in various cultures.  In the Catholic religion, they are summoned to be cast out.

Ah, I'll let Khat take over from here!  I'm facinated with this too.

[khat13]

I shall try to explain( )...  different cultures believe differently of course.  As a hoodooer I do not care either way, I believe that without good evil could not exist, they are seperate ends of the same stick.  I believe very strongly in pandora's box.  There were civilizations,cultures and people-beings here before us. I think that some residual memory was passed down to us in myth form, so that we are aware that true evil is still out there.  If you remember  your bible stories you will remember Jesus casting out the demons called Legion.  It is a simple truth that if you ask a demon it's name it MUST tell you.  It is up to you to decide if you will believe it or not.  Myself, I always ask another demon or angel if it's trustworthy or not.  Sometimes you will end up with the old riddle of"if everything I say is a lie..."  but usually I have enough experience or can call on others to deciper it's gobbledygook.  As for why someone would want to summon up a demon, there are many many reasons.  I usually find that if the person wants to not accept responsibility for his own anger or evil then he will put it onto a demon.  Some are just not strong enough emotionally to  accept the challenge of the fight.  And then unfortunately there is the reality that certain spells just require a demon as that is the only way to contact the energy required for the casting of the spell.  I don't like demons as they drain life force and require a tit for tat etc.  I have one that I have worked with since I was 13  his name is Astaroth, and he and I struck a deal a long time ago.  I often wonder if that is the reason for the M.S.?  I have asked but of course he will not answer on this subject. Personally it is small peanuts to pay with MS as to with a piece of my soul.   I think your grandfather was right when he told you not to mess with things that you don't understand, I used to get calls and visits in the middle of the nite from newbies who needed someone to gate a demon that they loosed and could not get  to go back.  I get annoyed with people who mess with stuff that they don't understand.  I told HollyJ to be careful with the Ouija for that very reason... it's a portal and you don't always get who you call... all want to cross and will do and say anything to get over to our side.  Hope this helps  if not you know where I am!

[khat13]

Why would anyone want a dibbuk?  These are evil beyond belief and need to be left alone.

[khat13]

Did you know that Djinns are fallen angels that fell for human like traits?  something to think on.

[HJuniper]

The person who is in possession of the Dibbuk presently has an interesting theory that when it was opened, the demons were released and then took control over Nazi Germany!

[J.Crew]

I read about the Dibbuk box! too weird!    I wasn't sure weather I believe it or not. I figured somebody was just out to make a quick buck off some junk in their basement by playing off people's fascination with the unexplained.  The more I read I started to change my mind.  The problem with pulling a scam is the more information you give, the easier it is to verify that info. Let's just say by the time I finished the article, I would be Leary about having that thing in my possession.

Thanks for the info Khat! 
Gives me some insight.  I will probably be researching the subject further.  No worries! RESEARCH ONLY for now. The old saying... "We fear what we don't understand" applies for me.  Hence I would want to learn much more before I would even consider toying with summoning.
It sounds like you have considerable amount of experience.  Without being a pain, it would nice to know I could pick your brain once in a while with the occasional question.